Comment on Fate/Worm - Ascension

  1. Darklight1125 on Chapter 1 Wed 03 Jun 2026 08:54PM UTC

    On Billy the Kid: https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Billy_the_Kid
    "...The Noble Phantasm itself, but rather Billy's marksmanship with the revolver, making closer to being a Personal Skill, only requiring magical energy equal to a Rank E Noble Phantasm..."

    Mana on the official page: E.

    To the best of my knowledge, no Servant has a Magic rank of Null. If it is sealed? That is a different story.

    On someone having to know what happened or have it be broadly shared to become a noble phantasm: This is just straight wrong. The easiest example would be EMIYA's Unlimited Blade Works. Unlimited Blade Works is ranked as a Noble Phantasm, but it's really a personal magecraft and bounded field that can be deployed. Voyager has Noble Phantasms - and it's a robot floating in space. Noble Phantasms are conceptual - not based on knowledge or renown. Excalibur was used against the White Titan, it is a Last Phantasm, and barely anyone in universe knows that. Alaya does. Gaia does. Akasha does.

    Taylor's base stats are ranked as average. About the only thing she has higher than EMIYA is her strength and her agility - and that is only by a single rank for strength - and a singular plus modifier for agility. EMIYA is stated to have average and below average stats for a servant on multiple occasions - that doesn't make him a weak one.
    https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/EMIYA_(Archer)

    Also - servant stats are not completely representative of their human selves. It is stated, on multiple occasions, that servants are more powerful than their default human forms from which their Saint Graphs are based. Jeanne did not have her stats. Billy the Kid did not have his. Shakespeare did not have his. Stats are representational for the games - not representational of capability or capacity.

    Yes - she's weaker compared to someone from the Age of Heroes. The Age of Heroes, however, was not dominated by people with extreme strength in abundance. Mystery hadn't settled yet - so greater possibility was allowed. Gilgamesh is the one that set the divide into motion - and magecraft was stronger then because less people used it. That's how magecraft works - the more people who know it? The less of a mystery it is. That's the canon reason why mages are so protective of their spells and knowledge.

    If you dropped a modern human, into the age of gods? yes - their base stats are going to be weaker. Know what else would be different? Their magecraft. If a spell was developed later than the point they landed? They would be the only one's who know it.

    And if you don't like it? I don't care. You're wrong on almost every point - correct in theoretical technicality on maybe two, with massive asterisks attached - and you're resorting to insults because you have the will to argue and none of the temperament of wit.

    If you have an actual, factual claim with sources? Please, bring them forward. I do not mind being wrong - but I refuse to let you influence my story. You want one that suits your tastes?

    Go and write one. Thank you for comments, your opinions, and for correcting me on the Alaya point- but please, and I say this kindly and with the utmost disrespect - take your eyes else were, and your words to the moon.

    For anyone reading this - feel free to disagree with me. Feel free to even insult me creatively, if you want. If I get something wrong - feel free to point it out. But try to not be a dick.

    There is a difference between criticism and flaming. If you have a question? Even better - feel free to ask. I'll answer them as best I can

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