Comment on Snippets, and Blatherings, and Things Left Unfinished

  1. Denadareth on Chapter 6 Sun 01 Sep 2024 07:03PM UTC

    What can I say, depression can be a bitch. I just wish you didn't put that + VE on yourself at the same time as it can't be easy, but congratz for finishing it.

    I’ll be blunt (skip the rest of this paragraph if you do not want season 2 speculation), of the three girls (Vi, Caitlyn, and Jinx), I expect at least one of them (Jinx) to be dead by the end of the show (if not sooner), quite possibly two, and perhaps all three. Arcane is daring/dark enough to do that, I think. - hmm, interesting, here I was thinking they all HAVE TO survive because they appear in the game or something like that.

    But that didn’t seem right. I cannot say “anyone might die” and then always save Korra and Asami. I had to be stronger than that, both for the sake of the story and for my own growth as a writer. So, soon into the writing process, I teased the idea to myself that I should just kill everyone, with maybe one exception. - okay, so to be clear, the next thing I write does not refer to this story, because I think your ending is spot on, but GENERALLY I disagree with this statement. I think stories "anyone might die" are much better than "everyone (save one character) will die", because if you know almost everyone dies, you quickly stop bonding with the characters so much. That is my grip with many of the horrors - you spot the lead character who survives the story/movie (or dies just in the final scene) and you know all the rest will be dead. So I PERSONALLY don't like kille'em all stories. The readers need to have some hope for survival of their precious characters if you are to rip it to shreds.

    To quote Raphael: "Hope! Such a tease!"

    It took a little while for me to figure out the name for their gang. Fire Ferrets has been done so many times. Same with Krew. So I just did some word associations, and when I thought about Air Temple Island that led to The Temple Gang. - I definitely understand that, though just personally I like playing with this sense of continuity. Every Korra crew in my story will be "Fire Ferrets", (almost) every Lieutenant will be named Tazaki and so on... I like seeing how I take the same thing in different direction.

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    1. Just_Addie on Chapter 6 Sun 01 Sep 2024 07:30PM UTC

      I just wish you didn't put that + VE on yourself - well, I wasn't expecting this one. And I absolutely NEEDED to finish VE.

      here I was thinking they all HAVE TO survive because they appear in the game - yes they all do, and since Arcane is considered part of the canon, maybe that will save them, but it might be considered AU canon, so I'm not sure.

      if you know almost everyone dies, you quickly stop bonding with the characters so much. - that is totally fair! Trust me, I do not anticipate another "almost everyone dies" coming from me anytime soon, though I guess between Aliens and this, that is two this year!

      The readers need to have some hope for survival of their precious characters if you are to rip it to shreds. - Well, I guess that's my next writing growth arc. I think I even know the story I'll do it in. :>

      I like seeing how I take the same thing in different direction. - it is fun! Both ideas good, but different!

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      1. Denadareth on Chapter 6 Sun 01 Sep 2024 09:09PM UTC

        And I absolutely NEEDED to finish VE. - I respect that. I'm increasingly worried, I'll never finish CnC.

        yes they all do, and since Arcane is considered part of the canon, maybe that will save them, but it might be considered AU canon, so I'm not sure. - I think the story would be better with some deaths there, but I'm afraid they'll keep everyone alive in compliance with canon (also, one of the reasons I generally am not fond of prequels).

        that is totally fair! Trust me, I do not anticipate another "almost everyone dies" coming from me anytime soon, though I guess between Aliens and this, that is two this year! - forgive if I don't believe you Just_Korra_will_survive_I_swear_Addie.

        Well, I guess that's my next writing growth arc. I think I even know the story I'll do it in. :> - oh?

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        1. Just_Addie on Chapter 6 Sun 01 Sep 2024 09:41PM UTC

          I'll never finish CnC. - well, you just have to keep plugging away. It's a huge project, so it will take some time! You're doing great!!!

          but I'm afraid they'll keep everyone alive in compliance with canon (also, one of the reasons I generally am not fond of prequels). - that all makes sense! Find out in Nov I guess.

          forgive if I don't believe you - like I said, I don't *anticipate* another coming. But I must write what I must write :p

          oh? - oh no, that would be telling ;)

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          1. Denadareth on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 07:10AM UTC

            well, you just have to keep plugging away. It's a huge project, so it will take some time! You're doing great!!! - yeah, every now and then I get self-doubt about it...

            that all makes sense! Find out in Nov I guess. - we'll see. I should start stocking antidepressants already

            like I said, I don't *anticipate* another coming. But I must write what I must write :p - a lying liar who lies!

            oh no, that would be telling ;) - yes, and that's what I want you to do :P

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            1. Just_Addie on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 12:35PM UTC

              yeah, every now and then I get self-doubt about it... - I totally understand that. Self-doubt is not my middle name, but I am pretty sure it could be! :D

              I should start stocking antidepressants already - not a bad idea!

              and that's what I want you to do :P - Okay. I'll say that if/when I write the Mad Max inspired one, Major Character Death will almost certainly be a tag. Probably with the Expanse, too.

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              1. Denadareth on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 12:36PM UTC

                Okay. I'll say that if/when I write the Mad Max inspired one, Major Character Death will almost certainly be a tag. Probably with the Expanse, too. - Ah, I was thinking of the vampire story ;)

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                1. Just_Addie on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 12:43PM UTC

                  Oh, that one too! Though I have to rethink some major plot points if I want it to not be a complete downer by the end.

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                  1. Denadareth on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 12:46PM UTC

                    I mean YOU probably want it to be a downer, because you're a monster. I'd prefer at least a very bitter bittersweet ending.

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                    1. Just_Addie on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 12:48PM UTC

                      I mean, the temptation is there. But I am in no rush to spend a long period of time in that headspace again, so I will try to change course with it.

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                      1. Denadareth on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 12:49PM UTC

                        Fingers crossed. But sometimes you write what you have to write. But you've got at least one supporter of a 'not entirely downer ending'.

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                        1. Just_Addie on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 01:28PM UTC

                          Oh, I know. Like I said, just need to think about it. Right now I'm kind of hopping from story to story as my interest waxes and wains. I have not settled onto one to focus on yet, nor have I yet looked at that one at all.

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                          1. Denadareth on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 01:33PM UTC

                            Like I said, just need to think about it. Right now I'm kind of hopping from story to story as my interest waxes and wains. - I've got the same thing! Apart from the issues I've already written to you.

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                            1. Just_Addie on Chapter 6 Mon 02 Sep 2024 01:53PM UTC

                              See, I knew you would get it!

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