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Alley Business by thetiniestteapot
Fandom Batman - All Media Types, Batman: Under the Red Hood (2010)
- General Audiences, Mature, Explicit, Teen And Up Audiences
- No Archive Warnings Apply, Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
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30 Sep 2025
- No Archive Warnings Apply
- Graphic Depictions Of Violence
- Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
- Talia al Ghul & Jason Todd
- Jason Todd & Damian Wayne
- Jason Todd & Original Character(s)
- Barbara Gordon & Jason Todd
- Jason Todd & Original Child Character(s)
- Alfred Pennyworth & Jason Todd
- Leslie Thompkins & Jason Todd
- Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne
- Bernard Dowd & Jason Todd
- Joker (DCU) & Jason Todd
- Duke Thomas & Jason Todd
- Stephanie Brown & Jason Todd
- Tim Drake & Jason Todd
- Dick Grayson & Jason Todd
- Cassandra Cain & Jason Todd
- Tim Drake & Bruce Wayne
- Kate Kane & Bruce Wayne
- Kate Kane & Jason Todd
- Diana (Wonder Woman) & Jason Todd
- Jim Gordon & Jason Todd
- Selina Kyle & Jason Todd
- Tim Drake & Dick Grayson
- Dick Grayson & Damian Wayne
- Dick Grayson & Duke Thomas
- Jason Todd & Wally West
- Barbara Gordon & Dick Grayson
- Original Character and Original Character
- Max Dawkins & Jason Todd
- Dick Grayson & Clark Kent
- Jason Todd & Pa Kent
- Leslie Thompkins & Bruce Wayne
- Dick Grayson & Bruce Wayne
- Jason Todd
- Damian Wayne
- Talia al Ghul
- Original Female Character(s)
- Barbara Gordon
- Original Child Character(s)
- Alfred Pennyworth
- Original Male Character(s)
- Joker (DCU)
- Duke Thomas
- Stephanie Brown
- Dick Grayson
- Tim Drake
- Batfamily Members
- Cassandra Cain
- Original Characters
- Original Non-Binary Character
- Bruce Wayne
- Kate Kane (DCU)
- Diana (Wonder Woman)
- Oliver Queen
- Clark Kent
- Jim Gordon
- Pamela Isley
- Waylon Jones
- Selina Kyle
- Wally West
- Max Dawkins
- Tim Drake (DCU)
- Jonathan "Pa" Kent
- Leslie Thompkins
- Post-Under the Red Hood Arc
- the Batarang is referenced
- Lazarus Pit Mad Jason Todd
- is it Pit Madness or is it PTSD from your dad cutting your throat to save the Joker's life?
- Jason sees Damian growing up in a cult and tries to get him out of there
- Jason Todd and Damian Wayne Meet in the League of Assassins
- Bad Parent Bruce Wayne
- But also
- Good Parent Bruce Wayne
- currently schroedinger's good/bad parent Bruce Wayne
- Talia al Ghul is Jason Todd's Parent
- or will be if she gets her way
- BAMF Jason Todd
- Red Hood being absolutely terrifying
- Jason Todd is Red Hood
- Protective Jason Todd
- Lazarus Pit Side Effects (DCU)
- Blood and Gore
- Crime Boss Jason Todd
- Post-Batarang Incident (Batman: Under the Hood)
- The Batarang is HAUNTING the end of this fic
- Jason Todd's Eyes Glow
- Crime Alley (DCU)
- there's no way that Batman and Leslie are the only people in Gotham to want to try and help people
- so here's one of them - Aunty
- hey what if hitting people wasn't the only way to help them
- or to stop crime
- looking at you Bruce
- The Batarang is haunting this fic too
- Mentioned Alfred Pennyworth
- Mentioned Tim Drake
- Hey guess what
- The Batarang is haunting this fic as well
- Barbara is the real mvp
- Implied/Referenced Rape/Non-con
- Jason Todd Takes Care of Crime Alley | Park Row
- Crime Alley | Park Row Residents Love Jason Todd
- post-Batman's "death"
- the terrible realisation that your grandson has grown up and you've failed him
- an attempt to reconcile the Alfred of Under the Red Hood and fanon Alfred
- because that is YOUR GRANDSON
- he is a PERSON
- hello
- you used to love him
- what is this???
- Post-War Games (DCU)
- I'm sorry Bruce kicks DR LESLIE THOMPKINS out of Gotham
- buddy the ARROGANCE
- Leslie cares for EVERYONE in Crime Alley
- and they love her for it
- also
- Jason had been reading too many books about kingdoms knights and fealty when he wrote this letter
- which makes him come off a little unhinged bless him
- Good Parent Talia al Ghul
- Jason comes back from the dead a little bit spooky
- Jason trying to deal with Bruce replacing him with another Robin
- Jason trying to deal with how Crime Alley talks about the tenures of different Robins
- Jason trying to deal with having died
- Implied/Referenced Character Death
- Jason Todd Has Mental Health Issues
- Panic Attacks
- Angst and Hurt/Comfort
- Post-Comic: Red Robin (2009) #26
- Jason Todd Has Trust Issues
- Bruce Wayne is Bad at Communicating
- oh hey The Batarang is back to haunting my fics again
- Identity Porn
- Barbara Gordon in a Wheelchair
- Barbara Gordon is a librarian
- and Jason Todd like books
- Barbara got hurt by the Joker
- so did Jason
- Barbara Gordon was Jason Todd's Batgirl
- remember this is the soft fic
- Jason is a little spooky
- Jason is also absolutely terrifying to the average person - if he chooses to be
- Jason - to some random uni students - hey lets talk about Robin being a child soldier for a second
- the uni students - please lets not
- False Identity
- Canonical Character Death
- spooky Jason Todd
- Jason Todd Needs A Hug
- Gotham City is Terrible
- Mentioned Jason Todd
- POV Joker (DCU)
- The Joker is his own warning
- the phrasing is taken from what the Joker says in some of the comics
- kinda creeped me out a little
- writing this
- hopefully that comes across
- Bruce Wayne is Bad at Feelings
- everyone dealing poorly with grief
- Grief/Mourning
- Jason is not necessarily the most reliable narrator here
- the consequences of The Batarang are haunting this fic
- Competent Jason Todd
- Duke and Steph can't tell that that's what's going on but they know something's up
- Duke grew up in the Narrows - in Red Hood's turf - and his morals reflect that
- canon Steph's morals aren't exactly 'killing is completely awful' either
- the start of Jason actually communicating with people!
- Organized Crime
- hey lets talk about the effects of beating people up if they don't have access to healthcare
- Uptown kids solidarity ftw
- Mediocre Sibling Dick Grayson
- sorry Dick - you're trying but you aren't doing great
- to be fair to him he's been trying to corral about twenty other younger siblings
- some of whom very much did not want to be corralled
- he was working off very faulty information with Jason and chose the wrong approach
- but I would like to say that Dick's efforts did work!
- Jason is talking to them - and he's even in the Manor
- which is way better than Bruce would have done
- (it's just that you don't see Dick's Successful efforts in this series - just his unsuccessful ones)
- sorry dick
- though I've got to say that it is not unreasonable to be upset that your dead brother
- came back to life as an internationally feared crime lord
- you know?
- Batman: A Lonely Place of Dying (1989)
- very nearly all the dialogue in chapter one is taken from these two comic runs
- and yeah Tim IS brave and clever and kind
- but he IS also arrogant
- and guess which bit comes out more in this particular conversation?
- Tim Drake-centric
- Tim Drake Has Issues
- can I specify what precisely those issues are? no but he definitely has issues
- one of them is that despite the fact that he HAS a relationship with Bruce/Batman
- he ALSO has a parasocial relationship with him which is just going to go so wrong someday
- Victim Blaming
- from Tim about Tim
- oh look it's The Batarang again
- but these two are Finally actually talking to each other
- Bad Sibling Dick Grayson
- Angst and Feels
- Comic: Red Hood: Lost Days Vol. 1 (2010)
- okay but seriously if you read Under the Hood there is SO MUCH BLOOD
- from The Batarang
- like- he is one hundred percent dead from that
- Batman hit an ARTERY
- re: talia - Jason needs specific things from his parental figures
- and boom! Talia fits exactly what he needs
- Dick Grayson Needs a Hug
- talking about the ethics of vigilantism
- and the ethics of...being a crime lord?
- Crime Fighting
- References to Blockbuster
- Jason's criticism of Bruce Wayne and his decision to be Batman
- Jason's criticism of letting children be Robin - letting children be child soldiers
- Dick Grayson Has Eldest Daughter Syndrome
- Dick Grayson and Jason Todd are Siblings
- Dick Grayson Has Mental Health Issues
- buddy this guy is TRAUMATISED
- and Jason was playing hopscotch on his trauma
- Dick Grayson is Damian Wayne's Parent
- Dick Grayson is a Better Parent Than Bruce Wayne
- these two are talking in circles
- but they ARE talking
- At Long Last
- oh hey The Batarang is back once more
- Trust Issues
- prolonged discussion of ethics
- Character Death
- Gotham parents
- woo Uptown kids
- weird expressions of love
- Killing is a love language
- if you're in Gotham
- Jason is now speedrunning all sibling relationships
- he will have as many siblings as he can get his hands on
- Jason was Steph's Robin
- Fluff and Humor
- the joker dies
- Black Mask Dies
- Good Sibling Dick Grayson
- Dick goes to extremes to be a good sibling
- slightly spooky Jason Todd
- there's still The Batarang hanging around
- Passively Suicidal Jason Todd
- Protective Dick Grayson
- Protective Talia al Ghul
- oh hey it's: Killing is a love language
- Dissociation
- I just want Jason and Cass to get along
- Jason gets the community of Uptown to argue his ethics for him
- and it works
- if Jason isn't adopting a Batgirl as a sibling then a Batgirl is adopting HIM as a sibling
- the community of Uptown
- Jason Todd drinks Respect Women Juice
- Cassandra Cain and Jason Todd Discuss Morality
- Mentioned Damian Wayne
- Mentioned Ra's al Ghul
- okay let the al Ghul family be morally grey please
- not almost cartoonishly evil
- come on man
- letting someone stab you/trying to stab someone is how you show love right?
- oop The Batarang again
- yeah Dick is still kinda trying to defend Bruce here but it's not been very long! give him time!
- Sexism
- Competent Talia al Ghul
- Scary Jason Todd
- Minor Violence
- batman #71
- you think THIS Jason is gonna let Batman #71 slide?
- no chance
- Blood and Injury
- Canonical Child Abuse
- hey remember Red Hood's rule number one - don't touch kids?
- Well Batman's about to find out what happens when you break Red Hood's rule
- Communication Failure
- Bad Cousin Bruce Wayne
- POV Kate Kane (DCU)
- Kate tries to deal with how her cousin has changed - for the worse
- Kate is just there like I'm sorry JASON is ALIVE and the RED HOOD
- I really wished this family communicated
- ffs
- Bruce Wayne became a worse person because he was Batman
- Bruce's control issues
- post-Batman #71
- all of the Bat family are bad at communicating actually
- and are prone to control issues
- Angst
- Identity Issues
- the Batarang
- Jason yells at the League for letting CHILDREN be heroes
- Bruce's poor coping mechanisms
- Jason yells at Bruce for a lot of things
- Police Commissioner Jim Gordon
- Jim Gordon Knows
- Tired Jim Gordon
- Implied/Referenced Cannibalism
- sorta - Freeform
- Humor
- Jason Todd-centric
- Jason comes back from the dead a little spooky
- Bruce Wayne Has Control Issues
- uptown kids ftw
- he gets better!
- Killing is a love language especially in Gotham
- stabbing is also a love language
- the ethics of vigilantism
- the ethics of Robin as a child soldier
- the ethics of killing in Gotham
- morally grey al Ghuls - not cartoonishly evil thanks
- the Joker and Black Mask die
- Alternate Universe
- Jason speedruns adopting his siblings halfway through this series
- There is not much plot
- mostly people thinking and talking
- Mentioned Bruce Wayne
- alright folks lets talk about the child abuse and the child soldier stuff
- Implied/Referenced Child Abuse
- Child Soldiers
- mentions of passively suicidal Jason Todd
- Childhood Trauma
- Psychological Trauma
- Bruce Wayne Has Issues
- Abusive Bruce Wayne
- Past Selina Kyle/Bruce Wayne
- Selina takes care of Crime Alley too
- Tim Drake Needs a Hug
- Damian Wayne Needs a Hug
- Bad Sibling Tim Drake
- Tim Drake is Not Okay
- Dick Grayson is Not Okay
- Dick Grayson Gets a Hug
- Dick Grayson Has Abandonment Issues
- Duke Thomas Needs a Hug
- Jason Todd Being a Little Shit
- Good Sibling Jason Todd
- Barbara Gordon is Oracle
- Dick Grayson is Nightwing
- Barbara Gordon Needs a Hug
- he's not a good person in this one folks
- he tortures someone to death
- its mostly off-screen but it still happens
- Implied/Referenced Torture
- Red Hood is terrifying
- it bothers me that often fics go for 'Jason needs forgiveness from Bruce for being Red Hood'
- Red Hood didn't do diddly squat TO Bruce
- None of what he did as Red Hood CAN be forgiven by Bruce
- it's not a matter of 'is Bruce capable/willing to'
- it's got nothing to do with him
- it's not for BRUCE to forgive
- and Jason (in this) knows that
- the in-transitive nature of forgiveness (it's not)
- hey anyone remember that Alfred has killed people too?
- HE's not going begging to Bruce for forgiveness
- why would Jason?
- mentions of Street Kid Jason Todd
- Sex workers
- a smidge of
- The League of Assassins (DCU)
- Mentioned League of Assassins Members (DCU)
- League of Assassins Jason Todd
- sorta anyway
- oh hey The Batarang is back again
- except they actually talk about it
- using their words and everything
- background Crime Boss Jason Todd
- unmentioned: that time when Dick killed the Joker
- Jason Todd Loves Dick Grayson
- Dick Grayson Loves Jason Todd
- just...in the background - Freeform
- Bruce's bad parenting towards Jason is very quietly haunting this fic
- Jason Todd Has Issues
- vigilantes are messed up
- they aren't okay
- Dick Grayson is Batman
- feat. Dick's issues about being Batman
- (the Batarang quietly haunting the background of this fic)
- feat. Jason's desperate desire for a family
- background dead bodies
- mentioned death of the Joker
- (also if you're wondering 'what conversation about identities' - it's not posted yet)
- seeing as I've been talking about most of the other stuff
- kinda have to talk about the prison industrial complex as well
- do you believe in Punitive or Rehabilitative and Restorative
- Batman believes in Punitive - that's for sure
- marked Teen and Up because of the subject matter - there's not actually anything graphic
- Forgiveness - and the lack thereof
- Alfred is not a saint
- Alfred is an enabler
- hey remember Tim's sixteenth birthday and how messed up it was?
- Alfred was a MAJOR part of that
- (canon Alfred is worse than this)
- (at least in this fic he's marginally self-aware about what's NOT ACCEPTABLE)
- Dick Grayson Has Issues
- Dick Grayson Has Anger Issues
- the thing is - when Dick looks at Jason. he's seeing a Robin
- when CLARK looks at Jason. he's seeing Red Hood
- and Red Hood is not a good guy
- Past Child Abuse
- tbh this doesn't have a plot - it's just musing
- POV Oliver Queen
- Decent Parent Oliver Queen
- He's made mistakes - but he's actively trying to do better
- Red Hood is not a good guy
- and Oliver knows that
- he's looking at Jason and going 'that's RED HOOD'
- whereas Dick is like NO that's MY BABY BROTHER
- also - Ollie and Jason have both died - so their bodies jive on a supernatural level
- which Ollie personally does NOT jive with
- if the tenses suck it's because I wrote most of it in present tense
- and then changed to pluperfect after
- Bad Person Bruce Wayne
- you don't get to save the Joker that many times and still call yourself a good person
- Jason Todd Deserves Better
- heck
- Death (The Sandman) - Freeform
- background Identity Porn I guess
- do not ask me how long I spent on wikipedia looking for zoetrope
- Talia al Ghul Tries to Be a Good Parent
- Family Dynamics
- jsyk - this had the working title 'trainwreck'
- Tim Drake Has Issues (DCU)
- oh boy does he have issues
- he has so many they all have a cage fight and he blows up on everyone around him
- lets see
- Tim Drake has a parasocial relationship with Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson
- Tim Drake and his issues around parentification
- Tim Drake's Hero Worship
- (that hero worship is not a good thing!)
- Not Tim Drake Friendly
- Tim Drake is Not Okay (DCU)
- Implied/Referenced Drug Use
- Tim Drake Needs a Hug (DCU)
- tbh everyone in this needs a hug
- Everyone Needs a Hug
- huh. did not know that was a tag.
- background Cassandra Cain
- argh I'm bad at writing action
- so the second half of what was Supposed to be action
- tangented into thinking instead
- ...i tried
- Sparring
- Stephanie Brown Appreciation
- come on - this is Jason 'supports women's rights AND women's wrongs' Todd
- now that Steph is his sister he won't think she's ever done anything wrong
- or he does but he doesn't care
- Stephanie Brown and Jason Todd are Siblings
- references to The Batarang
- Cheese
- I guess The Batarang is haunting this too
- and so is Batman #71
- Tim and Jason are NOT friendly
- references to Red Robin #1
- references to Red Robin #4
- Kon-El / Conner Kent is also here but in the background
- Kon gets a reality check
- Tim Drake being an asshole
- Jason just not giving a single shit about Tim being an asshole
- re: Jason's death
- references to whatever was happening between Ra's al Ghul and Tim
- and an attempt to make that make sense
- descriptions of violence
- reference to The Batarang again
- references to morally grey Ra's al Ghul
- I didn't vibe with him being Evil
- (which - depending on which comics you read - makes this more AU I guess)
- discussions of ethics
- and the sustainability of vigilantism
- hopefully I got a decent grasp of Cass' character
- Cassandra Cain and Jason Todd are Siblings
- Cassandra Cain Needs a Hug
- my days that's a tag?
- I just think that Pa Kent would be a good listener
- another excuse for Jason to monologue whoooo
- Jason and Tim are NOT friendly
- Tim Drake and Jason Todd are Not Siblings
- Cigarettes
- yeah it's the Joker thing (jesus christ)
- discussion of ethics and vigilantism
- still not a positive thing
- Background Barbara Gordon - Freeform
- Magical Jason Todd
- this is honestly one of the most self-indulgent things I've ever written
- it doesn't really fit with the rest of this series
- except for the fact that AB Jason has read a lot of Terry Pratchett
- Fire
- Magic
- no beta we die like men
- making children Robin is child abuse
- the moral issue of the existence of Batman
- Morality
- Leslie disapproves of Batman's whole...thing
- but especially the child soldiers part
- Mentioned Sheila Haywood
- mentioned Batarang Incident
- background Kate Kane
- the Batarang Incident gets mentioned again
- as does Bruce repeatedly saving the Joker's life
- Dick Grayson King of Repression
- Dick ‘I'm over this. I'm not upset. I'm fine. completely fine. and totally not upset about it’
- Dick ‘starts screaming’
- Jewish Bruce Wayne
- Jason would just like Bruce to leave him alone
- this has been written for MONTHS I'm so glad I can finally post it
- being Robin is child abuse
- also Bruce just sucks as a parent?
- Bruce thinks he NEEDS to be Batman
- it's his coping mechanism
- and it SUCKS anyway
- he is a poorly adjusted man
- who is way too used to not communicating
- and to violence
- he's also arrogant
- but! he can get better...eventually
- redemption is a thing
- Bruce believes in it
- so does Jason
- (Jason will just also shoot you to make sure you're not hurting people on the way)
- the thing is - it HAS to be Dick who gets Batman to retire
- he wouldn't listen to anyone else
- but he will - eventually - listen to Dick
- because he believes the MOST in Dick
- Fluff
- Tag
- vigilante tag
- Dick is there for approximately two seconds
- Bruce Wayne is Bad at Relationships
- okay that tag is probably for romantic relationships but ehhh
- Stephanie Brown Deserves Better
- Bruce Wayne should be hunted for sport
- Alfred Pennyworth Is Not a Saint
- Stephanie Brown Needs a Hug
- BAMF Cassandra Cain
- well...I say Discuss
- actions have consequences
- sometimes those consequences are broken bones
- because of AB!Jason's whole...thing
Summary
What if Jason actually stayed as competent as he was in Lost Days and Under the Hood, and actually reacted to his (ex-)dad slicing his neck open?
What if Bruce actually got taken to task (eventually) for being abusive?
What if people actually decided to talk to each other, and listened to what the other person was saying?But really, it's: what if Jason had a support system; and what if Jason had someone tell him that violence is not how you solve all societal problems.
(And what if I decided that the narrative would be on Jason's side as much as DC's narrative is on Batman's)
(Also, the series is only called Alley Business because I wrote that one first)Incomplete (and the total word count is half of what it says - the chronological order fic doubles it)
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- Tim Drake & Jason Todd
- Jason Todd & Bruce Wayne
- Tim Drake & Bruce Wayne
- Dick Grayson & Jason Todd
- Jason Todd & Damian Wayne
- Tim Drake
- Jason Todd
- Bruce Wayne
- Dick Grayson
- Damian Wayne
- Whump
- Hurt/Comfort
- Emotional Hurt/Comfort
- Dissociation
- Implied/Referenced Underage Prostitution
- Implied/Referenced Child Abuse
- Implied/Referenced Sexual Harassment
- Conversations about Feelings
- conversations about past trauma
Summary
There’s a reason Jason didn’t want to be a Wayne again.
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